Comments on: Matt Guerrier and Jesse Crain leave Twins for three-year deals

By: scot

scot — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:33:25 +0000

No way I would have paid Guerrier and Crain that kind of money and I agree with the Twins for letting them go. Twins need Capps one more season but will be gone in 2012 and probably Nathan also unless he comes back at a reduced rate after proving himself healthy. Still plenty of time to find some bargin upgrades so I am not freaking out yet that the Twins havn’t done much this offseason.

By: Gendo

Gendo — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 04:01:42 +0000

Amen. Seriously the moment someone types CERA into their browser it should shutdown their PC.

By: mike wants wins

mike wants wins — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 03:30:02 +0000

Hardy gone. Morales gone. Most of the bullpen gone. They are just waiting until they are done trading guys off the team, and losing them as FAs to sign Pavano, so people will forget about all the losses off of the team.

They never appreciate Morales. I’m sure Butera’s awesome game calling skills and ability to throw out baserunners (which team do the play that runs?) will offset his HORRIBLE offense somehow. Does anyone really believe that he has some mystical ability to be a better catcher of pitches that somehow lowers the ERA of the Twins’ pitchers?

By: Karl

Karl — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 02:22:17 +0000

” …Crain was great down the stretch this year, but no player on the Twins (even LNP) has caused me to swear as much at the TV as Crain has.”

Comment by Pedro Munoz

All time Pedro? Or just current roster?

My list looks like this:

Current Roster:

1) Delmon Effing Young
2) Crain
3) Cuddyer
4) Blackburn
5) Punto (Although technically not on current roster – give it a month)

All Time:

1) Ron Davis (It’s not even close)
2) Delmon Effing Young (Need I elaborate?)
3) Rob Wilfong’s Mustache
4) LaTroy Hawkins (Ron Davis with a plus fastball)
5) Lane Nick Punto aka Little Nicky Punto aka LNP

By: Gendo

Gendo — Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:53:36 +0000

Bill Smith just traded Morales for a Single A reliever, Paul Bargas.

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:37:15 +0000

Completely off topic, but I love Zack Grienke, and would also love it if the Twins were to try to get him. Ignoring all of the (important) side stuff, like the unlikelihood of the Royals trading him within the division, or whether you too like Grienke or not, do the Twins even have the pieces to deal to get him?

By: bcntwinsfan

bcntwinsfan — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:29:13 +0000

Speaking of LNP, the indians just signed adam everett. you all know what that means, little nicky and his headfirst slides into first are coming back next year.

By: Pedro Munoz

Pedro Munoz — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:51:35 +0000

While both players will be missed, given the money they were offered, there should be no second guessing at all. Crain was great down the stretch this year, but no player on the Twins (even LNP) has caused me to swear as much at the TV as Crain has.

By: Jason w

Jason w — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:44:29 +0000

Let’s not forget about Pat Neshek possibly stepping back into a prominent role in the bullpen. A full season removed from his TJ surgery should hopefully make him something more like his 2007 version in 2011.

By: James M.

James M. — Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:44:21 +0000

The numbers back up JR Cigar’s first point. According to Fangraphs, Guerrier was only slightly above replacement level last year with 0.2 WAR. In contrast, Crain had 0.8, which put him in the middle of the pack among setup guys. (31 of them outpointed him, roughly one per team. Their WAR’s ranged from 0.9 all the way up to 2.2.) So if Crain is Type B Guerrier probably should be Type C, which would mean no compensation at all! So maybe it worked out right after all.