Comments on: Offseason outlook: Justin Morneau http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/ Baseball news, insight and analysis from Aaron Gleeman Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:18:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.1 By: ewen21 http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-19422 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 17:14:09 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-19422 I’m glad you’ve brought up the first base situation because it IS alog jam there right now with Parmelee, Morneau and Mauer all being lefty first baseman. You also have Doumit, Morneau, Mauer, Parmelee all (at times) lefty DHs looking for at bats. I frankly cannot understand what the hold up is here with needs all over the roster. It breaks down quite simply for me. The Twins must act NOW and either:
A) Move Morneau NOW and get rid of some payroll: This idea that trading him before the trade deadline is a fools errand. Who knows what he’ll do? He can get injured just as easily as he can come out of the gate flying. Besides, Morneau is known to break down and if he does what then? If any team is willing to eat half his contract TRADE HIM!
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B) Trade Parmelee NOW to bring in a middle infield prospect: The guy has to get his shot, plain and simple. If we just keep him in a holding pattern again this year it is doing the Twins and Parm a disservice. Trade him for an equally promising infield prospect–preferably someone who can hit.

It’s one or the other, imo. Either move does SOMETHING good for the team. Having Morneau, Mauer and Parmelee all on the 40 man is a waste. The Twins cannot wait around. They need to do this deal before teams start rearranging their rosters and filling needs.

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By: Steve J http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-19220 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:42:22 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-19220 Allocations. Costs. Business language plied to human beings. Can you analyze the benifit of being a good human being and role model on a team? No.

Yes you can, and it turns out baseball clubs do.

Why else do you think a guy like Barry Bonds was among the leaders in OPS and next year wasn’t tendered a contract by anyone? It’s simply because everyone saw him (right or wrong) as too much of a liability outside the batters box.

There is plenty of evidence front offices value personality and character given how much time they talk with free agents and especially potential draft selections.

“Allocations. Costs. Business language plied to human beings.” – happens all the time in the workplace and normal business. This happens because we value character.

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By: Wyatt http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-19189 Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:39:41 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-19189 I would like to see the Twins free themselves of Morneau and his contract, then re-direct that money into the starting pitching market. As far as first base goes, I think the Twins should take a close look at what the A’s did last year. They picked up several Quad-A first base types for league mins (Moss, Carter, K’ahuihue), and mixed and matched until they found a successful platoon (Moss and Carter). I would love to see the Twins find a cheap righty Quad A type to platoon with Parmalee, preferably someone with some positional flexibility. I believe first base/corner outfield type platoon players are currently a market insufficiency.

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By: mike wants wins http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-19151 Thu, 01 Nov 2012 22:53:37 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-19151 So if you keep him, how do they compete next year? They are not adding to last year’s payroll….and they need 3-4 starting pitchers and a couple of bullpen arms, and the offense wasn’t that good last year either….so if you keep him, how do they compete next year?

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By: Dave T http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-19063 Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:43:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-19063 If your goal is to win the division, you want Morneau at 1B. If your goal is to finish ahead of Kansas City, you want Parmalee. The Twins have paid the price, by keeping Morneau on the team while he recovered from his injuries. Now I want the Twins to reap the benefits. I fully expect Morneau to return to his former MVP level in 2013.

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By: tborg http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-19027 Thu, 01 Nov 2012 14:23:39 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-19027 Is there a starting pitcher who, like Morneau, has a moderate injury risk, will likely give you average production, and makes about $14 million? An ideal situation would be a trade of Morneau that involves a pitcher like that. James Shields will have an annual salary similar to Morneau, but obviously he’s a lot more valuable. How much would Boston add to the deal if we took John Lackey off their hands? Could he be this year’s A.J. Burnett?

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By: Wojo http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-19007 Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:00:53 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-19007 Allocations. Costs. Business language plied to human beings. Can you analyze the benifit of being a good human being and role model on a team? No. I wish every sports writer did not try to be GMs and allocation manager. Here’s an argument that can’t be backed up by numbers but which nonetheless I think may be true: They should keep Morneau because he’s a model Twin and he can still play. Yes cost is a factor but after this next year they can see what he gives them and get him very reasonably for another short contract. If he can still produce at even an average level it’s worth it to have him on the team as he shows the young guys how to have class and play the right way. Keep him in the fold if at all possible.

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By: Steve J http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-18844 Thu, 01 Nov 2012 01:47:12 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-18844 What would you say about a 3 year $21mil extension? Similar to the Willingham deal. If Morneau came back strong this would be a steal.

At this point I think that would be a very big “if”. And given that he’s blocking Parmelee, It’s not a good fit position-wise.

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By: BR http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-18678 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:54:33 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-18678 A trade this offseason is certainly an option, but it all depends on what they could get for him. Based on recent performance, he’s a merely average starting 1Bman. As such, he’s clearly overpaid. Hard to see any team taking on his full salary right now and giving up a solid prospect. Maybe a #4 OF type or middle reliever plus a low minors lottery ticket. What’s the point of making that deal? The only reason to do it is if they NEED to save that money in order to pay it to some other top FA. I’m not convinced of that need – I think they’ve got the money to sign a guy like Anibal Sanchez and keep Morneau for a year.

So, they might as well hold onto him, hope he rakes, and deal him mid-season when a desperate team is willing to pay more. If nothing emerges and he has rebounded to an .850+ OPS kind of guy, tender him at the $13.3M level. Get him for another year if he signs, or deal him then, or let him go and get the supplemental pick.

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By: Spoof Bonser http://aarongleeman.com/2012/10/31/offseason-outlook-justin-morneau/comment-page-1/#comment-18677 Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:53:38 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=84683#comment-18677 I think he can still be plenty useful, but in some sort of DH/1st platoon role. Since Gardy likes the big bullpen and doesn’t really believe in the benefits of LH/RH platooning, I don’t see the ideal fit in MN. He should go fill the veteran role for a team like the Yankees, Boston, or Texas. He kind of reminds me of a poor man’s Jim Thome.

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