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	<title>Comments on: Twins trade Ben Revere to Phillies for Vance Worley and Trevor May</title>
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		<title>By: Steve J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never been high on Revere.  He&#039;s probably at his peak given his complete dependence on the few skills he has.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never been high on Revere.  He&#8217;s probably at his peak given his complete dependence on the few skills he has.</p>
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		<title>By: Brooklynegg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooklynegg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 04:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re:  People upset about the trade - no big deal. No one is going to cancel their season tickets because of this. Great trade. Aaron,  a question: Why do you you say &quot;former first round pick&quot;? He will always be a first round pick for the year he was picked. Why not add information and say &quot;2010 first round pick.&quot; Same goes for beauty queens/playmate/Heismann winners; so-and-so will always be Miss America 2009. It actually takes more characters/time to type &quot;former.&quot; Do you think this is done so people just don&#039;t have to look up the information (i.e. they&#039;re lazy)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  People upset about the trade &#8211; no big deal. No one is going to cancel their season tickets because of this. Great trade. Aaron,  a question: Why do you you say &#8220;former first round pick&#8221;? He will always be a first round pick for the year he was picked. Why not add information and say &#8220;2010 first round pick.&#8221; Same goes for beauty queens/playmate/Heismann winners; so-and-so will always be Miss America 2009. It actually takes more characters/time to type &#8220;former.&#8221; Do you think this is done so people just don&#8217;t have to look up the information (i.e. they&#8217;re lazy)?</p>
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		<title>By: ewen21</title>
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		<dc:creator>ewen21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should probably reword the first sentence.  People aren&#039;t actually so much &#039;upset&#039; about the trade.  It&#039;s more like people are upset about losing Revere.  That I cannot understand.  Not when we have a bundle of prospects on their way up]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should probably reword the first sentence.  People aren&#8217;t actually so much &#8216;upset&#8217; about the trade.  It&#8217;s more like people are upset about losing Revere.  That I cannot understand.  Not when we have a bundle of prospects on their way up</p>
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		<title>By: ewen21</title>
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		<dc:creator>ewen21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I browse the comment section in the Star Tribune I see most people are actually upset about this trade and I find that to be bizzare.  It&#039;s only further proof that Revere is in fact grossly overvalued by a lot of casual Twins fans to the point where it is comical.  Nevermind the over the top gushings from Dick Bremer that literally wanted to make me vomit.  Some of these fans are even worse!  Maybe it&#039;s the histrionics people fall for??  I don&#039;t know.  But the fact is he is an average ballplayer with plenty of limitations.  Once you get past the occasional web gem and the big toothy grin he really doesn&#039;t bring so much to the table for a team&#039;s offense. As it is, the Twins have always larded up their roster with punch and Judy hitters who peck away like birds. Ben Revere isn&#039;t what this team needs anymore. This crop of outfielders will hopefully bring something different to the table.  It would be nice to see a lineup with better balance.  ((It&#039;s possible to have guys who can hit 10 to 15 home runs, play good defense and have plus speed!  We need more complete players.  NOt guys who have half a game))  It&#039;s a MAJOR coup for Terry Ryan to get this kind of a haul for Revere.  I am genuinely floored that TR did this.  We actually sold high on a player for a change!  I will say this.....Ben better wise up to the market he&#039;s going to enter now.  In a city where they boo Santa Claus, I think he&#039;s going to be shocked by the contrast between what he&#039;s gonna have to deal with now and what he had in Minnesota.  Once they see he can&#039;t EVER hit a baseball more than 250 feet, doesn&#039;t walk and can&#039;t bunt they will grow tired of his big toothy grin.  You don&#039;t win points for smiles in Philly.  Ben could be in for a rude awakening, imo.  Especially if Worley bounces back]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I browse the comment section in the Star Tribune I see most people are actually upset about this trade and I find that to be bizzare.  It&#8217;s only further proof that Revere is in fact grossly overvalued by a lot of casual Twins fans to the point where it is comical.  Nevermind the over the top gushings from Dick Bremer that literally wanted to make me vomit.  Some of these fans are even worse!  Maybe it&#8217;s the histrionics people fall for??  I don&#8217;t know.  But the fact is he is an average ballplayer with plenty of limitations.  Once you get past the occasional web gem and the big toothy grin he really doesn&#8217;t bring so much to the table for a team&#8217;s offense. As it is, the Twins have always larded up their roster with punch and Judy hitters who peck away like birds. Ben Revere isn&#8217;t what this team needs anymore. This crop of outfielders will hopefully bring something different to the table.  It would be nice to see a lineup with better balance.  ((It&#8217;s possible to have guys who can hit 10 to 15 home runs, play good defense and have plus speed!  We need more complete players.  NOt guys who have half a game))  It&#8217;s a MAJOR coup for Terry Ryan to get this kind of a haul for Revere.  I am genuinely floored that TR did this.  We actually sold high on a player for a change!  I will say this&#8230;..Ben better wise up to the market he&#8217;s going to enter now.  In a city where they boo Santa Claus, I think he&#8217;s going to be shocked by the contrast between what he&#8217;s gonna have to deal with now and what he had in Minnesota.  Once they see he can&#8217;t EVER hit a baseball more than 250 feet, doesn&#8217;t walk and can&#8217;t bunt they will grow tired of his big toothy grin.  You don&#8217;t win points for smiles in Philly.  Ben could be in for a rude awakening, imo.  Especially if Worley bounces back</p>
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		<title>By: SHS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my guess is Mark DeRosa will be brought in to compete at 3B with t-money ploufffe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my guess is Mark DeRosa will be brought in to compete at 3B with t-money ploufffe.</p>
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		<title>By: SHS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[people keep saying Revere is average CF....

maybe true.

But a .300 .335 OB % guy with 40-50 steals and elite trackdown ability on defense is an average CF?

ok then.

I like the trade good move by Terry Ryan and Co.  Puts the Twins in great position for 2015.  Now for the Free Agents go get McCarthy or Marcum or Dempster i guess and maybe an OF..... Wonder how far Ichiro&#039;s price tag will drop on a 1 or 2 yr deal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people keep saying Revere is average CF&#8230;.</p>
<p>maybe true.</p>
<p>But a .300 .335 OB % guy with 40-50 steals and elite trackdown ability on defense is an average CF?</p>
<p>ok then.</p>
<p>I like the trade good move by Terry Ryan and Co.  Puts the Twins in great position for 2015.  Now for the Free Agents go get McCarthy or Marcum or Dempster i guess and maybe an OF&#8230;.. Wonder how far Ichiro&#8217;s price tag will drop on a 1 or 2 yr deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 16:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Brian, you&#039;re saying you&#039;d rather have Revere, Worley and May than Meyer, Worley and May?

Meyer &gt; Revere, IMO. Regardless of needs, Meyer is still the better value. Potential #2 starter, worst case #4 starter for an average CF?

Factor in our desperate need for pitching and Meyer for Revere is a homerun for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Brian, you&#8217;re saying you&#8217;d rather have Revere, Worley and May than Meyer, Worley and May?</p>
<p>Meyer &gt; Revere, IMO. Regardless of needs, Meyer is still the better value. Potential #2 starter, worst case #4 starter for an average CF?</p>
<p>Factor in our desperate need for pitching and Meyer for Revere is a homerun for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if Philly would have done the same deal for Span instead of Revere.  For me, the Twins not doing the Nats trade then dealing Span for Worley and May would have been the way to go.  Completely hindsight and speculation, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Philly would have done the same deal for Span instead of Revere.  For me, the Twins not doing the Nats trade then dealing Span for Worley and May would have been the way to go.  Completely hindsight and speculation, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At first I hated the Span trade. I thought Ryan should have gotten back a useful 2012 arm in addition to Meyer, even if it was someone on the John Lannan level. But reading some analysis on Meyer, it started to grow on me. 

Add in the Revere trade and I love the moves collectively. Worley gives the Twins a pitcher who can at least help make a few more games this season tolerable to watch. And now there is a silver lining coming in the form of 2014-2015 and beyond. Hopefully the front office can keep this going.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first I hated the Span trade. I thought Ryan should have gotten back a useful 2012 arm in addition to Meyer, even if it was someone on the John Lannan level. But reading some analysis on Meyer, it started to grow on me. </p>
<p>Add in the Revere trade and I love the moves collectively. Worley gives the Twins a pitcher who can at least help make a few more games this season tolerable to watch. And now there is a silver lining coming in the form of 2014-2015 and beyond. Hopefully the front office can keep this going.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, in that appearance on MLB Network Radio, Ryan made it pretty clear that Mauer wasn&#039;t going anywhere. I didn&#039;t hear him say he&#039;d listen to offers, but I imagine it came in the form of &quot;you&#039;re always willing to listen, but [5 minutes on how Mauer isn&#039;t going anywhere].&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, in that appearance on MLB Network Radio, Ryan made it pretty clear that Mauer wasn&#8217;t going anywhere. I didn&#8217;t hear him say he&#8217;d listen to offers, but I imagine it came in the form of &#8220;you&#8217;re always willing to listen, but [5 minutes on how Mauer isn't going anywhere].&#8221;</p>
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