Comments on: Twins sign Kendrys Morales http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/ Baseball news, insight and analysis from Aaron Gleeman Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.1 By: by jiminy http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37603 Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:33:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37603 You make many very, very good points, leeroy.

I agree with Aaron that if he was on the big league team, why wasn’t he DH’ing more?

But to say he has nothing to gain in AAA goes too far, as he clearly needs to improve defensively, and his offense has been going downhill since last fall.

I did not realize he’d only had 75 PA in AAA, so I’m glad he’s getting some work in at AAA instead of rotting on the bench. As long as Suzuki is getting the bulk of the starts at catcher, he’d be wasted even at DH, where he wasn’t doing that much offensively lately anyway. Blending in his hot streak last fall masks his actual usefulness. May as well see if they can teach him to throw people out.

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By: frightwig http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37602 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:09:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37602 This is a nice idea, but I don’t think Terry Ryan typically likes to “sell high” on his assets. It seems to me that if a guy is playing well, and Gardy and Ryan like him, the Twins will try to hang onto him until he’s no longer useful to the club or becomes just too expensive. The Twins probably should aggressively shop around Willingham, Suzuki, and Morales next month, but I could see Ryan extending Suzuki and Morales, and making a qualifying offer to Willingham after the season, instead.

Also if those guys and a few others are playing so well that it keeps the team bobbing along “within striking distance” of the top of the Central or a wild card berth, would Ryan dare trade away any of his hot bats for prospects at the deadline?

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By: Erik Sven Berquist http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37601 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:32:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37601 Why not trade Pinto for a proven closer, a la Matt Capps?

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By: GagneWithASpoon http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37600 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 20:14:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37600 The discussion of Pinto really would benefit from some context from the perspective of the Twins’ scouting and player development people. It’s always hazardous to extrapolate from a small slice of a player’s numbers, but since numbers are the focus of Aaron’s analysis of Pinto’s situation it seems fair to point out that his hitting has nosedived since the beginning of May. Pinto’s triple slash line in May was an ugly .208/.241/.358, and it got worse in June (although it was only 15 PAs). In addition, it seems to be the consensus view that Pinto’s catching skills need work. A little time to work on defense and regain confidence at the plate might be just what he needs — and with Suzuki still holding down the fort, why not give Pinto that time at AAA?

I think Aaron’s analyses are always great as far as they go, but often I wish they were supplemented with some information from scout or management interviews. As it is, the article raises the question of why Pinto was demoted but never answers it. An answer is suggested — he shouldn’t be demoted — but he has been, and presumably Twins management have reasons for dealing with him the way they do. I’d love to come to this site and see those reasons engaged, in addition to seeing Pinto’s numbers compared with Morales’s.

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By: McGivey87 http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37599 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 18:41:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37599 I love Pino and his potential but he is brutal behind the plate. Matt LeCroy-like back there.

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By: Ryan Glanzer http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37598 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 17:59:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37598 I like this move if for no other reason than sending a message to the players that the team is serious about winning. And based on the player quotes I saw, the move did just that.

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By: leeroy http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37597 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 16:04:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37597 I’ll add he should have been playing a lot more the past 2 months, because his name is not Jason Kubel. But he’s a large defensive liability at this point, which more or less relegates him to DH. As of Sunday the Twins have one of those, so development in 3A might not be the worst thing from a defensive and long-term standpoint.

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By: Kavan http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37596 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 15:11:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37596 I totally agree that Pinto should be getting more playing time. That said I don’t think Suzuki’s numbers have tailed off yet this year:

Month wRC+
Mar/Apr 128
May 108
June 148

He’s never finished a season above 100, so I’m waiting for him to regress like anyone else, but it hasn’t happened yet. Its tough to bench a guy that’s hitting 20 percent better than league average at a premium position (thats good for 7th in MLB for catchers with at least 150 PA). Pinto shouldn’t be wasting away warming a bench, so maybe let him crush AAA until Suzuki turns into a pumpkin, then let Pinto take over starting duties and have Suzuki catch a couple times a week?

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By: leeroy http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37595 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:50:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37595 Pinto needs to work on defense if he ever wants to be a full-time catcher and it’s probably best he does that at 3A where he gets the most playing time. So far this year he is yet to throw out a base runner, lags in pitch framing, and has been worth negative runs blocking as well. Offensively Pinto has posted a 106 WRC+ this season, which is likely more indicative of his current true talent level than the 169 WRC+ from 2013 that was lumped into this analysis. He only recorded 75 PA in 3A, so it is fairly safe to say that he could benefit from a everyday playing time in the minors on both side of the ball.

As far as Pinto being 25 years old, sure it would be nice if he were ready right now, but that probably isn’t the case going off metrics and watching him play. Examples of catchers who took longer to develop include Evan Gattis (rookie age 26) and John Jason (26), and everything worked out alright for them. Too early to tell if this will be the case for Pinto, but to say there is nothing to be gained by sending Pinto down for development seems a bit misguided.

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By: alpha http://aarongleeman.com/2014/06/11/twins-sign-kendrys-morales/comment-page-1/#comment-37594 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 14:36:00 +0000 http://aarongleeman.com/?p=114178#comment-37594 Like where you’re going Mr. moist – great point. AG any exotic baseball rules blocking RM’s suggestion? Also man I gotta say…I love how the ball FLYS off Morales’ bat so far. The ball is in the outfield in a blink. Brought back memories of a guy named D.Ortiz

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