April 6, 2003

Getting swept and talking about it

Yesterday, the Minnesota Twins played the Toronto Blue Jays, in the 3rd and final game of their series at the Metrodome. Toronto won the first 2 games by scores of 7-2 and 4-3 (in 11 innings).

I watched the game in my dorm room and chatted with a couple of Canadians, Craig Burley and Kent Williams, from the Batter's Box, one of my favorite websites and the place for all things Blue Jays-related.

Enjoy...

[PRE-GAME]

Kent: Who calls the Twins games on TV?

Aaron: Dick Bremer and Bert Blyleven.

Kent: Not bad; we have a moronic play by play guy.

Kent: And a platoon of Cerutti and Candiotti.

Aaron: Is Candiotti doing today's game too?

Kent: Probably; he gets about 30 of 120 cuz JC wants to cut back.

Aaron: I actually like our guys, but I suspect outsiders would think they suck.

Kent: There's only been about two decent Canadian baseball announcers.

Aaron: Who?

Kent: Dan Shulman, now with ESPN.

Aaron: Yeah, he is awesome.

Aaron: On radio especially.

Kent: Dave Van Horne, Expos.

Aaron: Hmmm, I don't think I know him.

Kent: Knows the game, good company.

Aaron: But Shulman is great and I like him, because he doesn't feel the need to wear a rug on his head like Marv Albert!



Kent: Ha! Don Chevrier (now retired) was a good partner with Kubek years ago

Kent: But I hated Tony.

Kent: Arrogant SOB.

Aaron: Didn't kubek do national games too?

Kent: I think for NBC.

[THE BROADCASTS BEGIN]

Kent: Yup, the knuckleballer's up in the booth.

Aaron: Blyleven is wearing a shirt that says "You know, today is my birthday."

Aaron: That's all he has been talking about this week.

Kent: Loved that curve.

Aaron: "Brad Radke is the Twins' stopper" – Dick Bremer.

Kent: By default.

Aaron: I guess...

Kent: Candiotti has a face for radio.



Aaron: Buck Martinez is doing Orioles games now, I guess they couldn't have him back in Toronto after they canned him as manager...

Kent: Buck got a raw deal all around; he never should have taken the manager job.

Kent: He was an icon up here

Aaron: He has a bad voice, but I think he's a decent announcer.

Kent: He improved so much from a terrible start.

Aaron: He worked with Shulman, right?

Kent: They were great together.

Kent: Dan can call a pitch - sets up the analyst well.

Aaron: Did you know we painted the turf? See the checkerboard pattern?

Kent: Why?

Aaron: Cause it is falling apart and this hides it a little bit, I guess.

Kent: Mohr in CF?????

Aaron: Sunday after a night game; maybe Torii is banged up from that layout last night.

Kent: Good point.

Aaron: No Guzman, no Hunter, no Jones.

Kent: But isn't Dustan a bit immobile?

Aaron: He's not awful out there. I'd rather stick Kielty there, but I am basically the #1 Kielty supporter in the universe.

[FIRST PITCH]

Kent: Stewart is a great 2 strike hitter and a very tough out.

Aaron: Career .302 hitter...not bad.

Kent: Routine F8. Still a decent AB.

Kent: Nice eye, Cat.

Aaron: Frank Catalanotto looks like he's about 13 years old.

Kent: Hitting machine. If he stays healthy this is an amazing lineup.

Aaron: Vernon Wells has really impressed me this series, defensively especially.

Kent: Look at Wells - he exudes confidence; it's a menacing stance.

Aaron: Low and outside is getting called a strike today apparently.

Aaron: Yeah, the Jays have a lot of "crouch" stances.

Kent: Larry Vanover behind the plate, sets up way inside, almost behind the hitter.

[WELLS GROUNDS TO SHORTSTOP, BUT TWINS CAN'T TURN THE DOUBLE-PLAY]

Aaron: Bremer just said "Rivas is the best pivotman in the league..."

Kent: Everybody's good at something...

Aaron: Imagine if Luis was actually a good player, they would never stop complimenting him.

Aaron: That is actually his best skill - turning the double play.

Kent: Carlos is seeing the ball better; they booed him at home in game two.

Aaron: Wells seems like he should steal more bases.

Kent: It's an organizational red light.

[DELGADO HITS A 2-RUN HOMER TO DEAD CENTER]



Aaron: Oh boy.

Kent: Bye! A no doubter

Aaron: We are getting destroyed by homers in this series.

Kent: Pitch could not have been more down the middle.

Aaron: Yeah, that was bad.

Kent: No movement.

Kent: [Josh] Phelps still has trouble identifying off speed stuff.

Kent: He puts the fastball swing on changeups; it's his only weakness.

Aaron: Would you call him a "mistake hitter"?

Kent: Not at all. He can catch up to any #1 in any location.

Kent: And he can hit a hanging curve 500 feet.

Aaron: Yeah, he has massive power.

Kent: But I'd bet on Jamie Moyer against him... slop and guile.

[BOTTOM OF THE 1ST, 2-0 BLUE JAYS]



Aaron: Did you know Lidle was signed by the Twins in 1991?

Kent: No. He's a late bloomer for sure.

Kent: I sat right behind the plate for his first start. Lidle has a deceptive heater for a little guy.

Aaron: He was good aside from the 3 HRs in the first start, right?

Kent: Very good; he tried a 2 1 change to Posada, who guessed right. Then tried the same trick against Giambi. Twice

Aaron: That's interesting that all 3 would be off the same pitch.

Kent: Maybe he was tipping it, because they were fastball counts.

Aaron: He was 2 7 in the first half last year.

Kent: Same in 2001, a slow starter.

Aaron: He was unhittable late in the year though.

Kent: Hall of Fame August: 5 0, 0.20 ERA.

Kent: Don't let GOMEZ back into an at bat!

[GOMEZ STRIKES OUT ON A 2-2 CURVEBALL]

Kent: WOW! That was the pitch I wanted on 0 2.

Aaron: Great breaking ball...Gomez looked silly on that.

Kent: I talked to Lidle at the open practice.

Aaron: Nice guy?

Kent: Very. He said he was mixed up last spring; tried to add a new pitch and lost command of the old ones. Then scrapped the new one in June

[KOSKIE SINGLES TO CENTER]

Kent: Koskie didn't try to kill that, nice 2 strike hitting.

Aaron: Yeah, he's really a very good hitter, very streaky though.

Kent: I guess you really like your other Canadian - down on the farm.

Aaron: Morneau? Yeah, I'd like to see some power development, but he's gonna be a good hitter.

Kent: Cuddyer was taking all the way on 2 0.

Kent: That last pitch broke like a screwball. Right in on his fists.

Aaron: He should've taken a hack at the 2 0.

Kent: Tie game if he does; it did nothing.

Aaron: The one time a Twins hitter takes a pitch all year!

Kent: Ha!

Aaron: I've never seen a team more likely to swing on a 3 1 pitch.

[TOP OF THE 2ND, 2-0 BLUE JAYS - HINSKE AT THE PLATE]

Kent: Here's the only Jay who's still not in a groove.

Aaron: Yeah, he looked bad in his AB last night.

Kent: He's a streaky hitter; had some 5 HR weeks where he hit .500 and some like this one.

Aaron: The fact that they have to call Mientkiewicz a "Former Gold Glove winner" is idiotic...he should've won the award last year.

Kent: He should win it every year.

[CRAIG ENTERS THE ROOM]

Kent: Hey Craig.

Aaron:Hey Craig.

Craig: Let me just say this...we have angered the gods here in Southern Ontario.

Craig: This weather is an obvious sign that we have transgressed His law.

Aaron: That's for booing our anthem!

Craig: The situation seems to demand a sacrifice. I would like to propose Doug Creek...

Kent: Second that.

Craig: Doug Creek it is then.

Aaron: Agreed

Aaron: I am willing to offer up Lui....nevermind.

Craig: I spent two hours this morning chopping my car out of two feet of solid ice. Never in my life have I ever shovelled my car out with an axe.

Craig: Mientfhgwgads makes every play.

[HUDSON GROUNDS A HOT SHOT TO MIENTKIEWICZ, BLUE JAYS GO DOWN 1-2-3]

Kent: Lidle using off speed stuff on Mientkiewicz.

Craig: That was a splitter!?

Aaron: We seriously need to start hitting...I'm getting worried.

Kent: Craig, you missed a gorgeous curve earlier.

Aaron: Yeah, to Gomez.

Craig: You know something... when Lidle is working and hitting his spots he has similar abilities to Halladay. Good control, keeps the ball down, gets ground balls.

Aaron: Lidle is definitely a solid #2 guy.

[MOHR STRIKES OUT ON AN 0-2 CURVEBALL]

Craig: He's hitting his spots now.

Craig: Terrible call I thought. That was a couple inches off the plate.

Aaron: The ump is a little more pitcher friendly today.

Craig: once you start hitting the glove, you get the close ones.

Aaron: I'd rather have an ump call close ones strikes than start squeezing like last night.

Craig: Exactly. Get the players swinging, get some balls in play.

Craig: Lidle's location against the Yankees was awful....

Kent: He threw about six bad pitches and got punished. Credit their hitters.

Craig: Exactly. The Yankees are the epitome of patience in action.

Aaron: They wait for crush pitches and then crush them.

Aaron: Hey, the White Sox aren't beating Detroit yet!

Craig: Have the Tigers scored a run?

Kent: This year?

Aaron: 0 0 right now, or do you mean this season?

Aaron: Damn, he beat me to it!

[CHRIS WOODWARD SINGLES TO BEGIN THE 3RD]

Kent: Baby! Woody's back!

Kent: Just took that little bleeder last night.

Craig: He's simplified...he's hitting down on the ball and using the turf.

Kent: Somebody tell Eric [Hinske]... he wants to break his slump with a 5 run HR.

Craig: And if you ever needed a lesson on why statistics don't show players as being streaky...that was an example. When guys struggle, they change approaches and make alterations, a constant process...which acts to counteract the fact that hitters are actually streaky to some degree.

Kent: If there's anything in your head - anything - your hitting suffers. It has to be reflexive, like Stewart.

[STEWART SINGLES. 1ST AND 2ND, NO OUTS]

Aaron: Uh oh.

Craig: Again, through the infield.

Aaron: We need a popup here bad.

[CATALANOTTO SINGLES. BASES LOADED, NO OUTS]

Kent: Cat is amazing.

Craig: big boppers coming up.

Aaron: Can we start this game over?

Aaron: Bremer said we made some sort of roster move, but they won't say who/what - I am guessing Fetters to the DL.

Kent: Sac fly here; he'll overswing. Single up the middle is called for.

Craig: Since Coach is offering predictions, I just have to say that what Aaron did last night was absolutely amazing.

Aaron: Yes, it was! 🙂

Craig: Before Phelps came up in the 11th, Aaron called "Phelps homerun to left center."

Aaron: And, unfortunately, I was right.

Kent: Like Ruth in '32.

Kent: Good for Vernon; laid off Radke's pitch to go 3 2.

[VERNON WELLS DRAWS A WALK. 3-0 BLUE JAYS, BASES STILL LOADED, NO OUTS]



Aaron: Geez, Radke walks in a run!

Kent: RBI BB - the new Wells!

Craig: And now Carlos comes up with the bases loaded.

Aaron: If he hits this out, I am leaving.

[DELGADO SINGLES PAST CHRIS GOMEZ, 5-0 BLUE JAYS]

Craig: That was a nice shot by Delgado. Ate up Gomez.

Aaron: ugh!

Craig: Delgado hit that *HARD*.

Kent: Ugly; Guzman turns two.

Aaron: I doubt it.

Kent: Or goes home for the lead guy.

Aaron: Guzzy probably "olés" that.

Kent: Oh yeah, the famous playoff play.

Craig: Yeah Gomez is a better defender really than Guzman. He looked bad there though.

Craig: Nice chance for Hinske to break out.

Kent: Hinske hit it hard last time.

Craig: Nice high fastball.

Aaron: 89 MPH heat!

Kent: Good spot, up and away.

Aaron: Crap, Chicago is up 1 0.

Craig: That's over then.

[HINSKE STRIKES OUT ON HIGH FASTBALLS]

Aaron: Well, that was a bad at bat…or good pitching.

Kent: Same place, K.

Kent: "A ball or two off the plate; good pitcher's pitch" Candiotti

Craig: He's a knuckleballer, everything was off the plate.

Aaron: Yeah, didn't he just throw it down the middle and let it dance?

Kent: He mixed in a "fastball" when you least expected it.

Aaron: Or a "straightball" at least.

Craig: Radke just missed the call that Lidle got.

[MYERS SINGLES TO LEFT FIELD, 6-0 BLUE JAYS]

Kent: God I love Myers!

Craig: Yeah, it's nice to have a left-handed catcher who hits. It's not like he's Fabregas or anything either...

Aaron: I can hear a phone ringing in the bullpen…

Kent: He hit the pitch Hinske couldn’t, to the only place on the field you can hit that pitch.

[BOTTOM OF THE 3RD, BLUE JAYS UP 6-0]

Kent: I'll say Aquilino [Lopez] gets a couple innings. Hasn't been used much, but Tosca brought Trever Miller into a tough spot.

Craig: We may have picked a dog to do this thing! 6 0 in the middle of the third.

Aaron: Yeah, last night would've been the game to do it

Kent: Damn! I just realized I own Radke [on my fantasy team].

Aaron: So does Delgado, apparently.

[PIERZYNSKI GROUNDS OUT]

Craig: Everything is on the ground.

Craig: Another close call for Lidle, 0-1.

Aaron: My man Luis will get a knock here.

[RIVAS GROUNDS TO THIRD BASE]

Kent: Nice smooth throw from Hinske; that's a relief. He's lost the double clutch.

Aaron: Bremer and Blyleven are already in "time kill" mode they are discussing taxes.

Craig: Yeah Aquilino Lopez should get an outing here if Lidle keeps the big lead, that will be fun.

[JACQUE JONES STRIKES OUT TO END THE 3RD, 6-0 BLUE JAYS]

Kent: There's that screwbally thing again. Didn't use that at all vs. Yanks.

Craig: That's the knuckle curve, isn't it?

Kent: Maybe, but it breaks the "wrong" way. Great 2 strike pitch.

Craig: Wilhelm had a knuckle curve that broke like a screwball...according to Wilhelm.

Aaron: We go to New York for 3 and Toronto for 3 after this...it could get ugly.

Kent: Just get into the Yankees bullpen.

Aaron: We might wanna try to just score some runs first.

Aaron: Yep, Fetters on DL...and Juan Rincon called up. I told you they don't know Grant Balfour exists!

Kent: Rincon had awesome spring numbers.

Aaron: He's very hittable...I wish they'd give Balfour a shot.

[SHANNON STEWART DOUBLES, WOODWARD TO THIRD BASE]

Craig: Big knock, he really does look like a batting titlist.

Aaron: I'd say Brad is just about done.

[CATALANOTTO DOUBLES OFF THE BAGGY IN DEEP RIGHT FIELD]



Aaron: Cat bangs one off the baggy!

Kent: Off the baggy...HR anywhere else.

Aaron: He's done.

Kent: Cat has two swings - the gentle, inside out one most of the time, and that one.

[JUAN RINCON ENTERS THE GAME FOR RADKE]

Aaron: Ladies and gentlemen...Juan Rincon!

Kent: Craig, you should try to make Thursday night’s game – Doc [Halladay] & Pedro.

Craig: That's the due date.

Aaron: Yeah, he's gonna be busy for a while.

Kent: Your priorities are all messed up.

Craig: It's not my fault...well it is, but still...

Kent: It's your wife's production, based on your idea.

Craig: Directed by the OB.

Aaron: Yeah, good job! Right in the middle of baseball season! For scheduling purposes, I think future babies should be conceived on opening day.

[WELLS GROUNDER TO SHORT, CATALANOTTO HUSTLES TO THIRD BASE]

Craig: Ah, productive outs. That was good baserunning by Cat.

Kent: Cat does nothing wrong out there; he always has a plan.

Aaron: "This is not a Brad Radke day" Blyleven

Aaron: They are saying Radke got screwed up because he had an extra day between starts. Now he’s at the end of the dugout, working on his nails.

Aaron: Delgado doesn't get cheated up there.

Kent: Carlos tried to hit it out of the building.

Craig: Massive cut, little dolly grounder to the pitcher.

Aaron: I like how Rincon looked him back to 3rd, like he's gonna sprint for home up 8 0 in the 4th.

Craig: Aaron, call another home run for Phelps will you?

Aaron: No! Never again!

Kent: Nice movement on that slider.

[PHELPS STRIKES OUT]

Kent: Straight change is Josh's weakness.

Aaron: If he faces Phelps every at bat, Rincon could have a nice year.

Craig: It's that long swing of his, takes a long time to get started so he has to swing early.

Kent: So far, he can't seem to pick up the off speed stuff. It's the only adjustment he needs to make.

Aaron: It's too bad they let Radke start the 4th.

Aaron: Detroit scored! 1 1!

Kent: How's my boy Josh Stewart doing?

Aaron: 6 hits through 4 innings.

Kent: I needed a $1 pitcher...

Aaron: I will be shocked if his ERA is below 5.00 this year (if he stays in the rotation) I mean, he allowed a run to Detroit, how good could he be?

Kent: I'm hoping he becomes their Santana.

Aaron: He has a better chance of becoming the Santana.



Craig: Black Magic Pitcher.

Aaron: Helton took Schilling deep in Coors. 3 run shot.

Kent: Glass slipper broke for Rodrigo Lopez vs. BoSox

Aaron: Yep, 9 1 in the 6th...Nomar just went deep.

[BOTTOM OF THE 4TH. CATCHER GREG MYERS GETS HIT WITH A BALL UNDER HIS NECK GUARD]

Kent: OW!

Craig: I thought it was a tip…just a ball in the dirt.

Kent: Right in the throat.

Craig: I'd put Huck in and get him looked at. Soft tissue, dangerous area...

Aaron: Yeah, that could be serious.

Craig: He looks like he's OK...he's wincing but not in obvious pain.

Aaron: That's a tough mother.

Kent: He'll have a flap on that mask next time.

Craig: What is with Mientkiewicz's batting helmet? That's disgusting with the rosin and pine tar.

Aaron: He wants to be Craig Biggio when he grows up. I like it, goes with his overall theme no batting gloves and all that

Kent: Did you ever see the time Yeager was kneeling in the on deck circle and a bat splinter stuck into his neck?

Craig: Coach, thanks for reminding me. That was gross, but not nearly as scary as Clint Malarchuk.

Kent: *Wince* I was there, it was at the Murph. We were a bit tipsy and in the upper deck, so it took a while to believe what I was seeing.

Aaron: only 50 pitches for Lidle, he's cruising.

Craig: That was a nice swing by Cuddyer. You can see why he kills AAA pitching.

[CUDDYER TRIPLES OFF THE BAGGY IN RIGHT FIELD]

[TOP OF THE FIFTH]

Aaron: Hinske is looking pretty bad.

Craig: Yeah, he is struggling badly with everything.

Aaron: For Twins fans reading this...Javy Valentin just hit a homer against the Yankees.

Craig: Gary Knotts is shutting down the White Sox so far. 1 1.

Aaron: Amazing.

Craig: Myers goes to 3 2...he really does force a lot of pitches.

Aaron: You know, Rincon really looks great.

Craig: He does!

Kent: They just showed the Valentin blast. 5 second hang time.

Kent: I hate Clemens.

Craig: You're just jealous because Rob Dibble likes his butt more.

Aaron: Ha!

Kent: In my twisted mind, he caused Jeter's injury...by head hunting Phelps

Aaron: Uh....

Kent: Karma. I never claimed to be logical...

Aaron: Griffey is out at least 6 weeks according to ESPN.com.

Craig: Gotta be more.

Kent: They were taunting him in his own park.

Craig: They hate him now. It's really passionate now.

Aaron: He needs to a) go somewhere else and b) stop playing centerfield.

Craig: First base. He MUST play first base.

Aaron: Or DH. If he's running and stopping and starting and diving...it's gonna be trouble.

Craig: Well at first he doesn't take the pounding... and it's not as if Cincy has an elite first baseman.

[KIELTY SINGLES TO LEAD OFF THE BOTTOM OF THE 5TH]

Aaron: BOBBY!

Kent: So is Lidle on a pitch count?

Aaron: I bet he goes 6.

Craig: I would think they'd like to get him out after 90.

Kent: I leave him in until they score, but that's me.

Aaron: Then we rock Lopez for 9 runs in the 7th!

[PIERZYNSKI GROUNDS INTO A DOUBLE-PLAY]

Aaron: Wow, nice DP.

Kent: Un freaking believable.

Craig: Very nice double play...good stop by Woodward, backhand flip to Hudson, great *HARD* throw by Hudson to get Pierzynski.

Kent: I yelled "no" when Hudson threw it, thought he had no chance. A.J. runs like me.

Craig: Woodward had to get down in a hurry, it was a shot right by the bag.

Kent: I want to see the replay; I think Orlando was surprised he had a chance to turn two.

Aaron: I'm sick of playing non Detroit teams.

Aaron: Our announcers are in serious chatter mode right now.

Kent: Candiotti is trying hard, but there's nobody in the booth with him who knows anything about baseball.

[RINCON STRIKES OUT STEWART AND CATALANOTTO BACK-TO-BACK]

Craig: Well I'm terrifically impressed with Juan Rincon.

Aaron: yeah, me too...forget everything I ever said about him.

Kent: Yeah, he overpowered Cat.

Aaron: We might wanna think about scoring a run at some point.

Craig: But that would break the shutout. You can't break the shutout!

Aaron: Good point.

Kent: Save the runs for New York.

Aaron: Uh oh, the White Sox have the bases juiced.

Craig: Alan Trammell is going for 0 162.

Kent: Higginson and Young hitting .056 in the 3 4 spots.

Craig: I was saying to Aaron yesterday that after yesterday's game, their 3 4 5 6 hitters were hitting .056, .056, .077, .083.

Aaron: Their whole team was at like .111.

Craig: That's the heart of their order.

Kent: With bad D, except at 1B.

Aaron: Kingsale isnt bad in CF, or Higginson in RF. But otherwise, yeah

Kent: Higgy doesn't care any more, just cashes the cheques.

Aaron: For our American readers: Checks 🙂

Craig: Pena, Higginson, and Kingsale...none of those guys are good defenders, though. They're OK.

[BOTTOM OF THE 6TH. JONES LINES A DOUBLE DOWN THE LEFT FIELD LINE]

Aaron: There we go. We've got em right where we want em now...

Kent: Lidle is getting every pitch over and Myers is mixing them up beautifully. Even the double was just good hitting on a perfect pitch.

[CHRIS GOMEZ SINGLES TO LEFT, 8-1 BLUE JAYS]

Craig: Nice seeing eye single.

Kent: Nice LF arm.

Aaron: How did Stewart ever get an "AV" arm in LF for Diamond-Mind?

Kent: A rainbow 150 foot lob

Aaron: I always thought his arm was horrendous.

Kent: It's an old football injury. It's the worst I've ever seen.

[KOSKIE FLIES OUT TO DEEP CENTER FIELD]

Aaron: Freaking Wells!

Kent: Routine.

Craig: Great running catch, got a good jump on the ball and coasted to the track.

Aaron: I am so sick of Wells right now.

Kent: He doesn't even have the decency to breathe hard after that.

Aaron: Kent and I were discussing if we'd do a Torii for Vernon trade.

Kent: If the salaries were the same it's close.

Craig: Yeah but they're not. The Jays wouldn't. No way.

Aaron: I said I would do it if I got Vernon's $3 mill a year salary.

Craig: Vernon is on a five year deal...Hunter's salary goes nuclear next year. Vernon has a much higher upside as well.

Kent: So what CF would you trade Wells for?

Craig: Not Beltran.

Kent: None of the older guys really.

Aaron: Hunter and Wells are very similar players.

Craig: I agree Aaron, they are VERY similar.

Aaron: Wells basically did last year (at 23) what Torii did in 2001 (at 25).

Aaron: I love Torii, but I really like Wells too.

Craig: I would trade him for Andruw Jones I think. I'd think hard about it anyway.

Aaron: If you're drafting CFs right now, I bet Vernon Wells would go near the very top.

[JAYS GO DOWN 1-2-3 IN THE 7TH]

Aaron: Seriously, Juan Rincon looks unhittable.

Kent: 6 K's for Rincon.

Craig: Rincon is really flinging it.

Kent: OK, no need to use Lidle any more. Bring on Lopez (our Rincon). Just 83 pitches, but why extend him?

Craig: It's April, I’d rather have him go 80 now than 100.

Kent: Yeah, and keep this memory for next time instead of maybe a poor inning.

Aaron: Vernon's #1 comp according to Prospectus' PECOTA thingy is Rondell White.

Kent: PECOTA doesn't consider durability, I guess.

Craig: Rondell White was a dynamite player.

Aaron: This is ridiculous Prospectus projects Vernon to be worth 2.5, 3.0, 2.8, 2.5 and 2.4 Wins Above Replacement from 2003 2007.

Aaron: He was worth 3.7 LAST YEAR!

Aaron: So a 23 year old is gonna be worth 20 30% less than he was in his first season for his next 5 years?!

Craig: Well it may be his comp list Aaron...Rondell declined at 24-25, for one.

Aaron: Still...

[LIDLE COMES OUT TO START THE BOTTOM OF THE 7TH]

Kent: Lidle won that argument, if there was one.

Craig: The pen is up now.

Aaron: I think it's a mistake letting Lidle start this inning, regardless of what happens.

[MIENTKIEWICZ WALKS]

Kent: First walk of the year.

Aaron: Blyleven says he'll get a tattoo if we win this game.

Aaron: Bremer is unwilling to shave his head.

Kent: Hey, they're more entertaining than our two stiffs.

[KIELTY SINGLES TO CENTER, RUNNERS ON 1ST AND 2ND]

Aaron: BOBBY!

Kent: Good hitting.

Aaron: Now they are simply saying that Blyleven will get a tattoo if Bremer shaves his head, regardless of the game.

Kent: I first guessed it, and I hate it when I'm right. I suppose you need practice getting out of jams.

Aaron: Tomorrow's Yankees game has been called off.

Craig: Why!?

Aaron: Snow, I guess.

Kent: Ice storm?

Craig: Apparently. I guess New York has angered the gods as well. So you get a doubleheader on Tuesday! No, I guess Tuesday there was a scheduled off day.

Kent: Lidle has a little steam left, but the control's fading.

Craig: He can't find the glove.

Aaron: It doesn't matter, we aren't gonna walk anyway

Craig: In there hackin'!

Aaron: Holy s@$%, Detroit took a 2 1 lead!!

Craig: Two errors and a wild pitch?

Aaron: Let's see...double, walk, single. All with 2 outs.

Aaron: Blyleven just predicted a "base hit or a double here."

Kent: No chance of a triple! 🙂

Aaron: A.J. had some triples last year!

Aaron: 6 triples last year! HA!

Kent: Cory's got him set up for the curve inside.

[PIERZYNSKI FOULS OFF AN INSIDE CURVE DOWN THE LINE]

Kent: See?

Craig: Yup and he nearly got that double!

Kent: Good job to foul that one off - 11 pitch AB!

[PIERZYNSKI TAPS BACK TO LIDLE. RIVAS GROUNDS OUT]

Aaron: Luis!

Kent: Hinske almost threw it away.

Craig: It's 12 2 Red Sox in the bottom of the 9th.

Aaron: I think maybe their bullpen can hold that, if Chad Fox doesn't come in.

Kent: Or Mendoza.

Kent: 6 RBI for Hillenbrand.

Craig: Rincon has thrown 46 pitches in four innings, 35 strikes. Very very impressive. Good location, good movement, and a live fastball.

Aaron: Yeah, he looks way better than I remembered him looking at any point last year.

Craig: Four innings down with only 46 pitches is impressive, even when trailing.

Craig: Hey! Expos win! Expos win!

Kent: 17 hits and they roughed up Benitez.

Craig: Liefer won it with a 3 run shot.

Aaron: What a bargain, all they had to give up for him was Bartolo Colon (or Brandon Phillips, Cliff Lee and Grady Sizemore)

Craig: Yeah but they also got a sore armed 40 year old pitcher!

Kent: 45.

[BLUE JAYS GO DOWN 1-2-3 AGAIN]

Craig: Rincon is auditioning for a job, eh?

Aaron: Fetters must feel like a bigger, sweatier, Wally Pipp right now.

Aaron: CBS.Sportsline’s game tracker thing is showing J.C. Romero in his 5th inning of work!

Craig: Nice! And he went 2.2 yesterday too! 🙂

Aaron: Yeah, rubber arm.

[BOTTOM OF THE 8TH, 8-1 BLUE JAYS]

Craig: It's Trever Miller.

Kent: What does he have against Lopez? By the time he gets into a game, he'll be rusty.

Aaron: Bonds got the day off today, it looks like.

Aaron: SFs lineup included: Neifi, Pedro Feliz, Ruben Rivera, Yorvit Torrealba.

Kent: Still better than Milwaukee's.

Aaron: San Fran is up 5 0.

Craig: Lopez might get the ninth, but Jones is up this inning. So Miller's the natural choice.

Aaron: Don't they know Jacque Jones destroys lefties now?

[JONES SINGLES]

Craig: A massive 140 foot single!

Kent: Tosca loves his L L matchups.

Aaron: Jacque is 3 8 with 2 doubles against lefties this year! Ah, the beauty of sample sizes.

[GOMEZ SINGLES]

Aaron: The wheels are in motion now boys, watch out.

Craig: Hocking is hanging on by his fingernails in this at-bat.

Aaron: Hocking takes more called 3rd strikes than anyone, ever.

[HOCKING TAKES A CALLED THIRD STRIKE]

Craig: So, Clemens won #295 today.

Kent: I hope he breaks his arm.

Aaron: The Tigers now have Steve Sparks in to try to close the game!

Aaron: And he just blew the lead...2 2. That was quick.

[MILLER WALKS CUDDYER TO LOAD THE BASES WITH 1 OUT]

Kent: Love those Twins fans; they're noiser now than Jays fans when we're winning.

[MIENTKIEWICZ GROUNDS INTO A DOUBLE-PLAY]



Aaron: That'll shut em up.

Craig: Good turn by Hudson, he knew he was going to have to step lively.

Kent: Carlos [Delgado] leads MLB in pulling his foot off the bag too soon.

Craig: He's actually quite good at pulling in errant throws, he just comes off the bag a lot.

Aaron: Seriously, why would trammell bring in Sparks in the 8th of a 2 1 game, when he has Franklyn German and Matt Anderson?

Kent: He used German already I think.

Aaron: Well, whaddya know, CBS.Sportsline screws up again!

Kent: The best live game data is from STATS.com but I don't play their game any more so it's not free. Loved it last year; 30 seconds behind the pitch.

Aaron: Josh Stewart: 7 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 1 K.

Kent: I'll take it.

[WELLS GROUNDS OUT TO MIENTKIEWICZ TO END THE TOP OF THE 9TH]

Kent: That's the best 1B in the game by a mile. The Mark Grace comparison is an insult to Minky.

Aaron: You gotta love a manager of an 0 5 team [The Tigers] with a 2 1 lead that is unwilling to bring in his "closer" for more than 1 inning, so he uses a knuckleballer.

Aaron: If he saves Anderson for 9th inning leads, he may not pitch the whole year.

Kent: Trammell will age 15 years this season.

Aaron: 3 2 White Sox

Aaron: And with that, the Twins and ChiSox are tied in the standings.

[DOUG LINTON ENTERS THE GAME FOR THE BLUE JAYS]

Aaron: Linton!

Kent: I linked to an article from the Syracuse paper that had a good view of Linton's signing.

Kent: They said Doug will tell other six year guys what a fair shake he got, and influence others to sign in the future.

Craig: Why do I get the feeling that Tosca is reluctant to use Lopez?

Kent: Me too.

Aaron: Yeah, if you're not gonna use him here...

[KIELTY GROUNDS OUT FOR THE FIRST OUT]

Aaron: bobby. 🙁

Craig: Mohr's had a nothing game.

Aaron: 5 2 White Sox (F@#&$* Tigers)

Craig: Admittedly, they handed you guys three wins as well.

Craig: Mohr singles! See how that works? I badmouth a guy, and he comes up.

[PIERZYNSKI GROUNDS OUT TO HUDSON]

Kent: Nice range by the Dawg.

Aaron: Now that's a second baseman!

Craig: Does Rivas get to that, Aaron? Maybe?

Aaron: HA!!!!!!

Aaron: My mom just IMed me and said, "Twins Suck."

Craig: The final out is at the plate.

Craig: I've got my broom here...

Kent: Here, Luis, hit this…

Craig: Terrible, terrible swing, two feet outside in the dirt.

Aaron: He stinks!

[RIVAS TAKES A CALLED THIRD STRIKE TO END THE GAME]

Aaron: Good take! HAHAHA.

Craig: Takes the third strike…

Kent: Guessing all the way.

Craig: Jays 8, Twins 1. Well guys, it's too bad we couldn't have had a better game for which to do this.

Kent: I had fun

Aaron: Yeah, maybe we'll do it another time and have a closer game – or at least a Twins blowout win. It was fun though.

Craig: Great fun. Time for curling! *Women's* curling!

Aaron: You crazy Canadians.

[THE END]

Toronto 8

Minnesota 1

W: Lidle (1-1)

L: Radke (1-1)

HR: Delgado (2)

Boxscore

Game Recap

Today's picks:

No picks today - nothing catches my eye.

Total to date: - $315

W/L record: 12-14

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