July 16, 2012

“Gleeman and The Geek” #50: Waving the White Flag

Topics for this week's episode of Gleeman and The Geek included once again rooting for the worst team in the league, why Francisco Liriano is like religion, what defines an "A" or "B" prospect in trade talks, how passing on Mark Appel makes even more sense now, celebrating our 50th episode, Matt Capps' return, Carl Pavano's non-return, my refined drinking habits, and a whole bunch of mailbag questions from listeners via Twitter.

Gleeman and The Geek: Episode 50

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  1. We were at Saturday’s game. Brutal! Will listen to the podcast from I-tunes as I drive tomorrow. Hope it doesn’t make me crash:-)

    Comment by Chris Atchison — July 16, 2012 @ 2:45 pm

  2. I think Rick Anderson would say Liriano’s problems are in his head. He’s historically horrible pitching from the stretch. He’s much more comfortable from the windup. I think if no one is on when he’s throwing to Gomes that homer doesn’t happen. He elevates because 1) he’s afraid of throwing the ball in the dirt with runners on, or 2) he’s overthrowing because he’s trying to throw out of a jam.

    Comment by GoGonzoJournal — July 16, 2012 @ 3:39 pm

  3. I’m glad to hear you take up the issue of the “Liriano is a headcase” narrative. You know, Brad Radke was the king of the “very good start except for that one bad pitch/inning”; and people would cast for reasons why his sinker wasn’t sinking in the early innings, or they might say that he just got tired in that last inning and it’s too bad Gardy left him in too long, but it was always some kind of mechanical/physical explanation offered. I never heard anybody say that Brad Radke was mentally weak. But, somehow, that’s become the narrative about Liriano. Maybe it’s because he was so brilliant in that one half-season, and only sporadically so great since, and it’s hard to understand why he can’t consistently return to that level. Unfortunately, the narrative also plays into some ugly ethnic stereotypes, and the people who push it might want to think about that.

    Comment by frightwig — July 16, 2012 @ 3:44 pm

  4. what happens to appel? is he now a free agent whose services go to the highest bidder? imagine a rotation in a few years of appel, gibson, baker, liriano, and diamond, with hendriks, duensing and swarzak in the wings.

    Comment by jfs — July 16, 2012 @ 5:37 pm

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    Comment by Ben H. — July 16, 2012 @ 7:06 pm

  6. Appel goes back to school. He re-enters the draft next year.

    Comment by mike wants wins — July 16, 2012 @ 8:30 pm

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    Comment by LockDown Pro — July 16, 2012 @ 9:11 pm

  8. ok, I listened to your podcast and you kept hitting on the 100 million dollar payroll. Wanna know what, there is no salary cap in baseball. The Twins made too many bad moves for the past 4 years with trades, drafts, signings and non-moves. It is not the fans fault but rather the organizations. As hard as it is to say, but they need to resign Liriano, sign a hamels or grienke and then a ryan dempster. They also need to sign Torri Hunter for RF, move Revere to LF and Willingham as your full time DH. Will this add money to the payroll, yes but it is their fault for putting a bad product on the field. Not the fans that paid for the stadium or go to the games.

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