April 17, 2013
Twins Notes: Four hits, two strikes, leading off, and mystery pitchers
• Monday night Joe Mauer went 4-for-5 with a homer and a double for his 20th career four-hit game and then he followed that up Tuesday night by going 4-for-5 for his 21st career four-hit game, which ranks fourth in Twins history and third in Twins history through age 30:
OVERALL THROUGH AGE 30 Kirby Puckett 47 Kirby Puckett 33 Rod Carew 42 Rod Carew 29 Tony Oliva 28 Joe Mauer 21 Joe Mauer 21 Tony Oliva 15 Chuck Knoblauch 15 Chuck Knoblauch 15
You certainly wouldn't know it based on this week, but strictly in terms of racking up hits Mauer is at a small disadvantage because he draws so many walks, especially compared to a free-swinger like Kirby Puckett. Here's the Twins' leaderboard for games getting on base at least four times:
OVERALL THROUGH AGE 30 Rod Carew 117 Rod Carew 84 Kirby Puckett 94 Joe Mauer 79 Harmon Killebrew 92 Chuck Knoblauch 76 Joe Mauer 79 Kirby Puckett 59 Chuck Knoblauch 76 Kent Hrbek 59
"Four-hit game" rolls off the tongue a lot smoother than "four-times-on-base game" but as always walks are a good thing too. Either way, Mauer is ridiculous right now.
• Three of Mauer's four hits Monday night came with two strikes, which prompted manager Ron Gardenhire to comment:
One of the best hitters I've ever seen with two strikes. It's incredible how he can go deep into a count and never panic, never have any fear, have a nice swing and barrel it just about every time.
Thanks to Baseball-Reference.com recently adding splits data to the already amazing Play Index here are the active leaders in batting average and OPS with two strikes:
TWO-STRIKE AVG TWO-STRIKE OPS Todd Helton .263 Albert Pujols .789 Juan Pierre .261 Todd Helton .784 Ichiro Suzuki .260 David Ortiz .698 Albert Pujols .258 Ryan Braun .697 Joe Mauer .256 Miguel Cabrera .696 ... Joe Mauer .668
As you might expect, guys with low strikeout rates have the best two-strike batting average and guys who're simply great all-around hitters have the best two-strike OPS. Mauer ranks fifth in batting average and 17th in OPS with two strikes.
• Last night Gardenhire moved Aaron Hicks out of the leadoff spot for the first time, which got me thinking about the history of Twins leadoff hitters. First, here's a list of the most starts in the leadoff spot in Twins history:
Cesar Tovar 742 Chuck Knoblauch 695 Denard Span 549 Zoilo Versalles 547 Dan Gladden 478 Kirby Puckett 417 Jacque Jones 320 Shannon Stewart 313 Lenny Green 263 Hosken Powell 225
Zoilo Versalles and Dan Gladden are two of the five most-used leadoff hitters in Twins history despite posting on-base percentages of .299 and .318 in the role. Jacque Jones and Hosken Powell weren't a whole lot better at .329 and .327, although at least Jones also slugged .472 for the highest mark by a Twins leadoff man. In all 25 hitters have started at least 100 games in the leadoff spot for the Twins and here are the leaders in on-base percentage:
Chuck Knoblauch .399 Steve Braun .386 Lyman Bostock .362 Otis Nixon .360 Shane Mack .359 Shannon Stewart .358 Luis Castillo .357 Denard Span .354 Lenny Green .350 Larry Hisle .348
As part of my "Top 40 Minnesota Twins" series I compared Steve Braun to Chuck Knoblauch and called him one of the most underrated players in team history. Braun played in a low-offense era, so his OBP was even better than it looks. The worst OBP by a Twins leadoff man with at least 100 starts belongs to Carlos Gomez at .280, which won't surprise anyone. Hicks has led off 10 times so far, which ties him for 69th in Twins history with Pedro Munoz and Mark Davidson.
• Hicks tied the all-time record for most strikeouts in a hitter's first 10 career games:
Aaron Hicks 2013 20 Brett Jackson 2012 20 Matt Williams 1987 19 Russell Branyan 1999 18 Ray Durham 1995 18
There's no real positive way to spin 20 strikeouts in 10 games--particularly when combined with just two hits--but Matt Williams and Ray Durham went on to have very good, long careers and Russell Branyan was a productive slugger for quite a while. And just short of cracking the above top-five is Giancarlo Stanton, who had 17 strikeouts in his first 10 games in 2010 and is now one of the elite hitters in baseball.
• Just a few weeks ago Terry Ryan said this about Hicks as the Opening Day center fielder:
The guy has earned it. I find it almost humorous that people are talking about service time, starting the clock. We didn't trade Span and Revere to stall the next guy. ... I can't ever feel guilt about stopping a guy that deserves to be there because I know if I put myself in that man's shoes, I would be severely disappointed.
Are we trying to win, or what are we doing? Can you imagine if we sent somebody out that did what the kid did, and I had to look at Willingham and Morneau and Perkins and Mauer and those guys that are trying to win, and I'm going to stop that guy? I just don't believe in that. I hear this stuff. Not here.
"Earning" something by playing well for 20 spring training games can be a funny thing, although perhaps not as "humorous" as Ryan found the service time discussion.
• Oswaldo Arcia's first taste of the big leagues lasted all of one game before Wilkin Ramirez returned from paternity leave, but he managed to get his first hit, make his first error, and have Mike Trout rob him of his first extra-base hit. And now with Darin Mastroianni going on the disabled list Arcia is coming back up after a 24-hour demotion to Triple-A. Arcia debuted about three weeks before his 22nd birthday, making him the 10th-youngest Twins player since 1991:
Joe Mauer 20.352 Cristian Guzman 21.016 Luis Rivas 21.017 Johan Santana 21.021 Rich Becker 21.221 Pat Mahomes 21.247 A.J. Pierzynski 21.253 David Ortiz 21.288 Francisco Liriano 21.314 Oswaldo Arcia 21.341 Javier Valentin 21.359
I believe the technical term for that list is "mixed bag." Jim Manning was the youngest player in Twins history, debuting in 1962 at 18 years and 268 days. He pitched seven innings that season and never played in the majors again. As for Arcia, it may take a trade or an injury but the odds seem pretty strong that he'll be a regular in the Twins' lineup for good by August. I rated him as the Twins' third-best prospect coming into the season, one spot ahead of Hicks.
• It's possible that the Twins demoted Liam Hendriks to Triple-A primarily because the various off days mean they won't need a fifth starter for a while and liked Pedro Hernandez more as a bullpen option during that time, but clearly their faith in Hendriks isn't very high right now. Faith in a pitcher with an ERA near 6.00 tends to be minimal and I've never been especially high on Hendriks as a prospect, but writing him off after 22 career starts would be a mistake.
Compare the following three Twins pitchers through 22 career starts:
IP ERA SO9 BB9 HR9 Pitcher X 118 5.63 5.4 2.5 1.4 Pitcher Y 137 5.40 3.8 2.2 1.6 Pitcher Z 121 5.20 6.5 2.1 1.5
One set of those lines is Hendriks and the others are Brad Radke and Scott Baker, who also frequently got dinged early on for not throwing hard and giving up too many homers. I'm certainly not suggesting he's the next Radke or even the next Baker, but if there's any benefit to being a bad team with a poor rotation it should be having few qualms about giving a 24-year-old like Hendriks an extended opportunity to sink or swim in the majors.
• Back in January team president Dave St. Peter was our guest on "Gleeman and The Geek" and we asked him if the Twins' recent struggles played a part in the inability to sign some free agent pitchers they targeted. St. Peter denied that was the case, repeatedly saying that "dollars and years" were the main factor:
No. It's dollars and years. It's dollars and years. And at the end of the day, a player might have Option A and Option B, depending where they're from. He may be able to take less in Option A, but at the end of the day it's ultimately going to come down to dollars and years.
I found that interesting at the time, because it seemingly differed from some previous things said by other members of the organization. Fast forward to last week, when Jesse Lund of Twinkie Town interviewed assistant general manager Rob Antony and got a much different answer to a question about the inability to sign targeted pitchers:
We made very competitive offers to a couple pitchers, and maybe even better offers than what players signed for. You get into a situation when you're coming off of two 90-plus loss seasons, some pitchers, and to their credit they are looking to land in a place where they'll get a chance to win, and some teams can just offer that and a player will look at it and believe it more so than when we say "Hey, we're trying to win, too." ...
So we tried to get some guys. We went after some free agents who basically didn't have a lot of interest in coming here, just because they thought that at this point in their career they wanted to win and they thought they could get the money and win somewhere else better than ... be in a better situation than they would be here.
That's about as far from "dollars and years" as you can get.
• Glen Perkins continued his recent media tour by talking to my favorite interviewer, David Brown of Yahoo! Sports. It's great, because how could it not be? For example:
DB: How are you personally coping without Denard Span? I don’t think I’d be doing too well.
GP: This is the first year since 2004 that we won't be teammates. It's weird. I unfollowed him on Twitter. I guess that's my coping mechanism.
Perkins actually unfollowed Denard Span right after the trade in January, later refollowed him, and then unfollowed him again. I know this because Span pointed it out each time on Twitter.
• On a related note, Span had no idea what a double-switch was until this week despite playing two dozen interleague games under NL rules while with the Twins. And also, you know, being a professional baseball player.
• Ben Lindbergh of Baseball Prospectus did some really interesting research about catchers and framing high and low pitches, with Mauer playing a prominent role in the analysis.
• Chris Jaffe of The Hardball Times tells the story of the time Bert Blyleven charged the mound.
• For a lot more about Hicks, Hendriks, and Arcia, plus the Twins' premature press release, check out this week's "Gleeman and The Geek" episode.
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Comment by Pedro Munoz — April 16, 2013 @ 11:14 pm
I finally understand your frustration with burt as an announcer. I switched feeds yesterday after he announced he didn’t ‘believe’ in sabermetrics…. this is like not believing in gravity.
Comment by Mark R (columbus, OH) — April 17, 2013 @ 8:41 am
That quote from Ryan sure takes on a new meaning now, doesn’t it?
“Are we trying to win, or what are we doing? Can you imagine if we sent somebody out that did what the kid did, and I had to look at Willingham and Morneau and Perkins and Mauer and those guys that are trying to win?”
I thought at the time that this was more about PR than winning. They’d traded away their two best center fielders, and to just show up two men short, when the team was already so bad, would have infuriated their fans. So they built their whole marketing campaign around the idea that they weren’t bailing on 2013 (even though investing in the future was a logical approach to their present situation); they were just making way for the next big thing in centerfield.
I thought it was reckless to promote a guy who’d never played above AA, not just because it started his service time clock, but because he still had things to learn. But who would go see a team with nothing left but the dregs of an already weak outfield?
It’s basically the same thing they did when they rushed an obviously unready Carlos Gomez to the big leagues, so they’d have something to excite the fans after dumping Santana.
I don’t know that it will harm Hicks’s development to try to learn to hit in the majors instead of AAA; he may actually learn faster up here.
But can Ryan really look those veterans in they eye, while running out a guy hitting .044, and still claim he’s doing it to win now?
Comment by by jiminy — April 17, 2013 @ 8:53 am
You wrote in the service time post that Hicks needed to stay in the Minors for a month to delay his service time. Are you sure that’s correct? A year of MLB service time is 172 days, and by my count the regular season is 183 days long this year. That means the Twins only need to send him down for 12 days in order to keep him under control through 2019, right?
Comment by Mark F — April 17, 2013 @ 9:11 am
Twins made the right call with Hicks, if you don’t try to put the best team on the field it creates an apathetic environment in the clubhouse, and that can have lasting effects.
Service time is important, but if Hicks proves to be a worthy MLB center fielder the Twins will re-sign him and non of this will matter. If he continues to struggle and becomes the second coming of Gomez he’ll be traded in 2-3 years for whatever he’s worth.
Comment by Billy — April 17, 2013 @ 9:45 am
Billy is right about the Twins making the right call with Hicks, and it’s hard to argue with the results, right Billy? what is he again, 2 for 50?
Comment by spoofbonser — April 17, 2013 @ 10:04 am
I found the answer to my own question. Hicks needs to be sent down for 20 days in order to keep him under team control for 2019. Twins would be crazy not to do it.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/04/service-time-and-the-40-man-roster.html
Comment by Mark F — April 17, 2013 @ 10:15 am
Mastroianni’s injury seems like the same pattern we’ve seen over the past few years, where the Twins refuse to put a player on the DL after an initial injury, then the player eventually ends up on the DL anyway after a few weeks of hobbling around. Given that the head trainer was fired last fall, is it correct to assume that management and Gardy are the ones pushing this philosophy? Or maybe it’s still just poor injury diagnosis. Either way, the problem still persists.
Comment by wheatenwade — April 17, 2013 @ 11:18 am
The Retrosheet for the last link states that Blyleven picked up the “ball” not the “bat” as is stated in the article. Either way, brings to mind a pretty hilarious image
Comment by D Wags — April 17, 2013 @ 11:25 am
The discussion of lead-off hitters was fascinating. Pedro Munoz was a lead off hitter over 60 times? Hosken Powell! Ah, the memories.
I also thought it was interesting that Knoblauch was among the leaders. I recall that, for at least the first 2 years of his career, Kelly always batted him second (the whole batting a middle infielder in the 2 spot had its genesis with Kelly, I think). Gladden, with his remarkably inferior OBP and base running skills, continued to be the leadoff hitter long past the time when it was obvious that Knoblauch would do a better job.
Comment by tborg — April 17, 2013 @ 11:44 am
That catcher framing article is fascinating. However, I still wish it weren’t a thing. #robotsnow
Comment by JS — April 17, 2013 @ 12:26 pm
Thanks Aaron… especially for reminding me what a terrific, underrated player Lenny Green was.
Comment by Brendan — April 17, 2013 @ 2:26 pm
Mark R —
Exactly! And ESPECIALLY after it was sabermetrics and non-traditional stats (wins) that resulted in Bert’s entry into the HOF (e.g., the California asset manager who started the push for Bert HOF many years ago)
Comment by BC — April 17, 2013 @ 4:19 pm